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Fan va adabiyot bir-biri bilan chambarchas bog'liq bo'lishi mumkin va Andres Parisning she'rlari buning isbotidir. Ilmiy lug'atdan foydalanish orqali shoir o'quvchilarida his-tuyg'ularni ifoda etish va uyg'otishga muvaffaq bo'ladi.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Andr\u00e9s Par\u00eds (Madrid, 1995) istiqbolli martabaga ega yosh shoir. Uning she'riy ijodi allaqachon bir nechta mukofotlarga sazovor bo'lgan, jumladan, V Poeta de Cabra mukofotida she'riyat bo'yicha birinchi mukofot va 2017-yilda Madrid shahar kengashining Lanzadera de Poesia mukofoti. Badiiy tomondan tashqari, uning ilmiy tajribasi ham diqqatga sazovordir; u biokimyo bo'yicha ilmiy darajaga ega va La Caixa stipendiyasi bilan Madrid avtonom universitetida molekulyar biofanlar bo'yicha doktorlik dissertatsiyasini himoya qilgan. U she'rlari orqali bu ikki dunyoni muvaffaqiyatli birlashtirgan rassomdir.<\/span><\/p>\n

Savol: She'rlar to'plamingiz mukofotga sazovor bo'lgani haqidagi xabarni olganingizda o'zingizni qanday his qildingiz? <\/strong><\/span>II Xose Antonio Santano yosh she'riyat bo'yicha xalqaro mukofoti<\/span>?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Javob berish uchun: <\/strong>Xo'sh, qarang, bu g'alati tasodif edi, men o'sha kuni birinchi ilmiy maqolamni nashr etganimni nishonlayotgan edim va allaqachon nishonlayotgan edim. Restoranning o'rtasida janob Xose Antonio Santano menga qo'ng'iroq qilib, yangiliklarni yetkazdi va keyin bu bayram bayramga qo'shildi. Bu juda quvonchli lahza edi, men yig'lay boshladim, qichqirdim - butun restoran menga qarab turardi - bu juda ta'sirli edi. Bu mening birinchi mukofotim edi, aslida, nashr etilgan she'rlar to'plami uchun yagona mukofot, u men tasavvur qilganimdan ancha o'zgacha edi.<\/p>\n

Savol: Boshlanishlaringiz haqida bilish uchun, yozishga bo'lgan ishtiyoqingiz qachon boshlanganligi haqida ozgina gapirib bering? Sizni she'r yozishga nima undadi?<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n

THE: <\/strong>Menimcha, barchamizning yaqin atrofimizda, oila a'zolarimiz yoki do'stlarimiz bo'lsin, ko'zga tashlanadigan odamlar bor. Birinchi targ'ibotchi otam bo'lgan, u menga she'rlar yozgan va she'r o'qib bergan. Menimcha, haqiqiy uyg'onish o'smirlik davrida, til va adabiyot o'qituvchisi butun sinfni cantiga de amigo yozishga chaqirganida sodir bo'lgan - cantiga de amigo - bu juda qisqa o'rta asr she'ri, hozir esimda yo'q va uzunligi ham esimda yo'q - lekin menga yoqdi, men juda o'ynoqiman, menga o'yinlar, jumboqlar, metrika va ko'rsatmalarga amal qilish juda yoqadi, shuning uchun men buni qildim. O'qituvchiga bu juda yoqdi va meni davom ettirishga taklif qildi. O'shanda men 14 yoshda edim va men davom ettirdim. Bu mening birinchi kitobimning nashr etilishiga olib keldi. avangard sonetlari va shamlar <\/span><\/em>O'shandan beri yozishni to'xtatmadim.<\/p>\n

\u00ab"Esimda, birinchi kuni til o'qituvchim kelib: "Kelinglar, bolalar, adabiyotni ta'riflab ko'ramiz", dedi va, albatta, barchamiz lug'at ta'rifidan foydalandik. Keyin u to'satdan boshqa mualliflarning adabiyotga bergan ta'riflarini tushuntira boshladi va men eslagan bittasi bor edi: "Adabiyot - bu insoniyat qalbida aks-sado beradigan koinotning aks-sadosi". Men buni hech qachon unutmaganman. Bu menga kerak bo'lgan yurakka o'q edi va o'sha kundan boshlab menga hayotimda adabiyot kerak bo'ldi.".<\/h4>\n

Savol: Sizning ishingiz ilmiy lug'at va havolalarni o'z ichiga olganligi bilan ajralib turadi. Ushbu ilmiy resurslardan foydalanishning maqsadi nima? Sizningcha, bu barcha o'quvchilar uchun tushunarlimi?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

THE: <\/strong>Men hech qachon maqsad haqida o'ylamagan edim; menimcha, oxir-oqibat, odam dunyoni o'z nuqtai nazaridan hikoya qiladi. Dunyoning moviy nurlaridan <\/em>Mening nuqtai nazarimdan, men biokimyoni o'rganganman, biotibbiyot bo'yicha magistrlik darajasiga egaman va doktorlik dissertatsiyamni tugatish arafasidaman, shuning uchun men fan mening dunyom va voqeligimning asosiy qismi deb hisoblayman; u mening haqiqatni, ya'ni she'riyatni ifodalash uslubimda mavjud bo'lishi kerak. Men uchun she'riyat va fanning umumiy jihatlari bor, bu izlanish, bu haqiqatga intilish, bu haqiqatga bo'lgan ishtiyoq. Shunday qilib, fanda ozgina she'riyat va she'riyatda ozgina fan bo'lishi kerak. Ilmni she'riyatga kiritish usulim lug'at, nutq figuralari, shakllar orqali...<\/p>\n

\u00ab"Mening haqiqatim - bu tashqi ko'rinishi biroz steril ko'rinishi mumkin bo'lgan haqiqat - tajribalar o'tkazayotgan laboratoriya kabi - lekin aslida, grafik kabi oddiy narsada go'zallikni topsangiz, agar uni go'zal deb bilsangiz, ichingizda go'zallik uyg'onadi - xuddi men bilan sodir bo'ladigan shaxmat o'yini kabi - siz uning she'r go'zalligidan unchalik farq qilmasligini kashf eta boshlaysiz. Keyin siz bog'lanishlarni boshlaysiz, nuqtalarni birlashtira boshlaysiz va bu ilmiy she'riyat yoki bu she'riy fan paydo bo'ladi.".<\/h4>\n

Men uchun fan "dendritik hujayra" deyish bilan bog'liq emas, aslida kitobda yozilganidek Dunyoning moviy nurlaridan<\/em> Bir she'r bor: Termodinamikaning ikkinchi qonuni<\/em> Termodinamikaning ikkinchi qonuni bo'lgan nomdan boshqa ilmiy tushunchaga ega bo'lmagan kitob. Narsalarning oqibatlari, muqarrar betartiblik, betartiblik va tinchlikning muqarrarligi haqida gapiring. Ba'zan matn biroz noaniq, biroz mavhum, murakkab, tushunarsiz so'zlar bilan ifodalanishi mumkin, ammo qiyinchilik shundaki, o'quvchi siz fan haqida gapirayotganingizni bilmasdan fan haqida gapirishdir. Bu kitob aslida pandemiya davrida yozilganligi va bir xil havolalarni keltiradigan ba'zi she'rlar mavjudligi sababli, u pandemiya, virus, kasallik, biz kimligimizga aniq havoladir va virus, antikorlar, PCR kabi atamalar paydo bo'lmaydi.<\/p>\n

Menimcha, she'riyat narsalarni sirli qoldirish, ularni parda va doka bilan yopish, yorug'likni hammasidan emas, balki o'tkazish va o'quvchiga o'zi xohlagan narsani kashf etish imkonini berishdir.<\/p>\n

Savol: Ilmiy ish bilan yozuvni uyg'unlashtirish qiyin bo'lsa kerak, qanday qilib ikki fan o'rtasidagi muvozanatni saqlab qolasiz?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

THE: <\/strong>Biz yozishni muvozanatlashtirmaymiz; yozish xuddi oyog'ingizni mos kelmaydigan poyabzalga qo'yishga o'xshaydi, uni majburlashga o'xshaydi. Siz miyangizni teshib o'tadigan va "Men bu bilan biror narsa qilishim kerak" degan fikrdan xotirjam bo'lasiz va tanbeh olasiz va uni yozishni boshlaysiz. Boshqacha qilib aytganda, qachon yozishni tanlamaysiz; siz olim sifatida hayotingizni yashayapsiz va to'satdan adabiyot sizni teshib o'tadi, yuzingizga shapaloq uradi va siz javob berishingiz kerak bo'ladi. Xo'sh, buni qanday qilaman? Omon qoling. Bu men bilan sodir bo'lganda, men fanni tark etib, o'zimni she'riyatga bag'ishlashim kerak, keyin esa fanga qaytaman va kam uxlayman; bu amaliy kalit.<\/p>\n

Savol: Televisi\u00f3n Espa\u00f1ola 1 ga bergan intervyuingizda ilm-fan va she'riyat birga yashashi mumkinligini ta'kidlagan edingiz. Rassomlarning hozirgi ahvoli va ilm-fan obro'si oldida har qanday badiiy ifodaga e'tibor berilmasligi haqida qanday fikrdasiz?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

THE: <\/strong>Menimcha, bu bizga o'smirlik davrida singdirilgan qarash, chunki yaxshi o'quvchilarni ko'rgan o'qituvchilar ularga fan bo'yicha bakalavr darajasini olishni tavsiya qilishadi - va men buni ba'zi do'stlarimdan bilaman - "gumanitar fanlarga bormang, chunki bu siz uchun yaxshi emas". Menimcha, bu biz kurashishimiz kerak bo'lgan biroz singdirish va siz qanday kurashishingiz kerak? Xo'sh, bag'rikeng bo'lish orqali. Kimdir bag'rikeng bo'ladimi? Xo'sh, olim va rassom bilan suhbatlashish, ko'priklar, mustaqil dunyolarni yaratmaydigan, lekin asosan birlashtirilgan dunyolarni yaratadigan aloqalar yaratish - bu men xohlagan narsa.<\/p>\n

Savol: Nihoyat, yozuvchi sifatida yozishni boshlamoqchi bo'lgan odamlarga qanday maslahat berasiz?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

THE: <\/strong>Uchta maslahat: ko'p o'qing, ko'proq o'qing va hamma narsani o'qing, keyin yozishni boshlang. Menimcha, boshlashning yagona yo'li - o'qish. Men adabiyot o'qituvchim bir nechta she'riy kitoblarni tavsiya qilgani uchun o'qishni boshladim va klassikalarni o'qiy boshladim. Shuning uchun, mening tavsiyam shuki, ko'p o'qishni boshlash va o'zingizga yoqadigan, yoqadigan klassikalarni o'qish. Tushunmaslik haqida xavotirlanmang, shunchaki qalbingizni she'rga oching va uning sizga singib ketishiga yo'l qo'ying, shunda to'satdan, buni bilmasdan, siz she'riy fikrlay boshlaysiz. Siz uni she'riy ongni tarbiyalash orqali tarbiyalaysiz va eng yaxshi yo'l - bu o'qishdir.<\/p>\n

Bu yosh shoirni muvaffaqiyatli kelajak kutayotgani aniq. Uning voqelik haqidagi tushunchasi tufayli ilmiy dunyo va lirik dunyo uyg'unlikda birga yashaydigan ko'prik topadilar. (Uning she'rlari) Dunyoning moviy nurlaridan<\/em> Ular Amazon, El Corte Ingl\u00e9s va La Casa del Libroda mavjud. <\/span><\/p>\n

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Bu menga yoqdi:<\/h3>\n

Menga yoqadi<\/span><\/span> Yuklanmoqda\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n

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