{"id":985,"date":"2023-04-03T23:02:48","date_gmt":"2023-04-03T23:02:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tirinha.com\/a-poesia-cientifica-de-andres-paris-deve-haver-um-pouco-de-poesia-na-ciencia-e-um-pouco-de-ciencia-na-poesia\/"},"modified":"2023-04-03T23:02:48","modified_gmt":"2023-04-03T23:02:48","slug":"a-poesia-cientifica-de-andres-paris-deve-haver-um-pouco-de-poesia-na-ciencia-e-um-pouco-de-ciencia-na-poesia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tirinha.com\/pl\/985\/a-poesia-cientifica-de-andres-paris-deve-haver-um-pouco-de-poesia-na-ciencia-e-um-pouco-de-ciencia-na-poesia\/","title":{"rendered":"Poezja naukowa Andr\u00e9sa Par\u00edsa: \u201eMusi by\u0107 troch\u0119 poezji w nauce i troch\u0119 nauki w poezji\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Nauka i literatura mog\u0105 i\u015b\u0107 w parze, a wiersze Andr\u00e9sa Par\u00edsa s\u0105 tego dowodem. Poeta, pos\u0142uguj\u0105c si\u0119 s\u0142ownictwem naukowym, potrafi wyrazi\u0107 i wywo\u0142a\u0107 emocje u swoich czytelnik\u00f3w.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Andr\u00e9s Par\u00eds (Madryt, 1995) to m\u0142ody poeta z wielk\u0105 karier\u0105. Jego tw\u00f3rczo\u015b\u0107 poetycka zdoby\u0142a ju\u017c kilka nagr\u00f3d, w tym Pierwsz\u0105 Nagrod\u0119 w dziedzinie Poezji V Premio Poeta de Cabra oraz Nagrod\u0119 Poetyck\u0105 Lanzadera Rady Miejskiej Madrytu 2017. Opr\u00f3cz aspektu artystycznego wyr\u00f3\u017cnia si\u0119 tak\u017ce swoj\u0105 bardziej naukow\u0105 stron\u0105, kt\u00f3ra jest to, \u017ce uko\u0144czy\u0142 biochemi\u0119 i jest doktorantem nauk molekularnych na Uniwersytecie Autonomicznym w Madrycie w ramach stypendium La Caixa, jest artyst\u0105, kt\u00f3remu w swoich wierszach udaje si\u0119 splata\u0107 oba \u015bwiaty.<\/span><\/p>\n

Pytanie: Jak si\u0119 poczu\u0142e\u015b, gdy dowiedzia\u0142e\u015b si\u0119, \u017ce Tw\u00f3j zbi\u00f3r wierszy zosta\u0142 nagrodzony Nagrod\u0105 im <\/strong><\/span>II Mi\u0119dzynarodowa Nagroda Poetycka im. Jos\u00e9 Antonio Santano<\/span>?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Reagowa\u0107: <\/strong>No c\u00f3\u017c, zdarzy\u0142 si\u0119 dziwny zbieg okoliczno\u015bci, \u017ce by\u0142 to dzie\u0144, w kt\u00f3rym w\u0142a\u015bnie \u015bwi\u0119towa\u0142em fakt opublikowania swojego pierwszego artyku\u0142u naukowego i ju\u017c \u015bwi\u0119towa\u0142em. Na \u015brodku restauracji odebra\u0142em telefon od pana Jos\u00e9 Antonio Santano, aby przekaza\u0107 mi nowin\u0119, po czym impreza zosta\u0142a dodana do imprezy. To by\u0142 bardzo szcz\u0119\u015bliwy moment, zacz\u0119\u0142am p\u0142aka\u0107, krzycze\u0107 \u2013 ca\u0142a restauracja na mnie patrzy\u0142a \u2013 to by\u0142o bardzo emocjonalne. To by\u0142a moja pierwsza nagroda, w\u0142a\u015bciwie jedyna nagroda za opublikowany zbi\u00f3r wierszy, by\u0142a o wiele bardziej wyj\u0105tkowa, ni\u017c sobie wyobra\u017ca\u0142em.<\/p>\n

Q: Aby pozna\u0107 Twoje pocz\u0105tki, powiedz mi troch\u0119, kiedy zacz\u0119\u0142a si\u0119 Twoja pasja do pisania? Co sk\u0142oni\u0142o Ci\u0119 do pisania poezji?<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>Wierz\u0119, \u017ce ka\u017cdy z nas ma w swoim bliskim otoczeniu osoby, kt\u00f3re zauwa\u017ca, niezale\u017cnie od tego, czy jest to rodzina, czy znajomi. Powiedzia\u0142bym, \u017ce pierwszym promotorem by\u0142 m\u00f3j ojciec, kt\u00f3ry pisa\u0142 i czyta\u0142 mi wiersze. My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce prawdziwe przebudzenie nast\u0105pi\u0142o w okresie dojrzewania, kiedy nauczyciel j\u0119zyka i literatury rzuci\u0142 ca\u0142ej klasie wyzwanie, aby napisa\u0142a cantiga de amigo \u2014 cantiga de amigo to bardzo kr\u00f3tki \u015bredniowieczny wiersz o metrum, kt\u00f3rego teraz nie pami\u0119tam, i d\u0142ugo\u015bci tego te\u017c nie pami\u0119tam \u2013 ale podoba\u0142o mi si\u0119, jestem bardzo zabawny, bardzo lubi\u0119 gry, \u0142amig\u0142\u00f3wki, przestrzeganie wska\u017anik\u00f3w i wytycznych, wi\u0119c to zrobi\u0142em. Nauczycielowi bardzo si\u0119 to spodoba\u0142o i zaprosi\u0142 mnie do kontynuowania. To by\u0142o, gdy mia\u0142em 14 lat, ci\u0105gle szed\u0142em i szed\u0142em. Zaowocowa\u0142o to publikacj\u0105 mojej pierwszej ksi\u0105\u017cki. awangardowe sonety i \u015bwiece <\/span><\/em>Od tego czasu nie przestaj\u0119 pisa\u0107.<\/p>\n

\u00abPami\u0119tam, \u017ce pierwszego dnia przyszed\u0142 m\u00f3j nauczyciel j\u0119zyka i powiedzia\u0142: \u201ezobaczymy ch\u0142opc\u00f3w, zdefiniujemy literatur\u0119\u201d i oczywi\u015bcie wszyscy u\u017cyli\u015bmy definicji s\u0142ownikowej. To, co nagle zacz\u0119\u0142a wyja\u015bnia\u0107, to definicje literatury innych autor\u00f3w i jedna, kt\u00f3r\u0105 pami\u0119tam, brzmi: \u201eliteratura jest echem wszech\u015bwiata rezonuj\u0105cym w sercu cz\u0142owieka\u201d. Nigdy wi\u0119cej o nim nie zapomnia\u0142em. W\u0142a\u015bnie tej strza\u0142y w serce potrzebowa\u0142am i od tego dnia potrzebowa\u0142am literatury w swoim \u017cyciu.<\/h4>\n

P: Twoje prace charakteryzuj\u0105 si\u0119 s\u0142ownictwem i odniesieniami naukowymi. Jaki jest cel korzystania z tych zasob\u00f3w naukowych? Czy s\u0105dzisz, \u017ce jest to zrozumia\u0142e dla wszystkich czytelnik\u00f3w?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>Nigdy nie zastanawia\u0142am si\u0119 nad celem, przypuszczam, \u017ce w ko\u0144cu osoba opisuje \u015bwiat ze swojej perspektywy. Z b\u0142\u0119kitu \u015bwiata <\/em>Z mojej perspektywy studiowa\u0142am biochemi\u0119, jestem magistrem biomedycyny i nied\u0142ugo ko\u0144cz\u0119 prac\u0119 doktorsk\u0105, wi\u0119c czuj\u0119, \u017ce nauka jest fundamentaln\u0105 cz\u0119\u015bci\u0105 mojego \u015bwiata i mojej rzeczywisto\u015bci, musi by\u0107 obecna w moim sposobie wyra\u017cania si\u0119 siebie prawda, kt\u00f3ra jest poezj\u0105. Dla mnie poezj\u0119 i nauk\u0119 \u0142\u0105czy to poszukiwanie, t\u0119 t\u0119sknota za prawd\u0105, t\u0119 obsesj\u0119 na punkcie prawdy. Zatem musi by\u0107 troch\u0119 poezji w nauce i troch\u0119 nauki w poezji. M\u00f3j spos\u00f3b na umieszczenie nauki w poezji to leksykon, figury, kszta\u0142ty...<\/p>\n

\u201eMoja rzeczywisto\u015b\u0107 to rzeczywisto\u015b\u0107, kt\u00f3ra na poz\u00f3r mo\u017ce by\u0107 nieco sterylna \u2013 przypomina laboratorium przeprowadzaj\u0105ce eksperymenty \u2013 ale w rzeczywisto\u015bci pi\u0119kno mo\u017cna znale\u017a\u0107 w czym\u015b tak prostym jak wykres. Je\u015bli uznasz to za pi\u0119kne, pi\u0119kno budzi si\u0119 w Tobie \u2013 jak gra w szachy, kt\u00f3ra mi si\u0119 przytrafia \u2013 zaczynasz odkrywa\u0107, \u017ce nie r\u00f3\u017cni si\u0119 ono zbytnio od pi\u0119kna wiersza. Potem zaczynacie tworzy\u0107 powi\u0105zania, zaczynacie \u0142\u0105czy\u0107 kropki i wy\u0142ania si\u0119 ta poezja naukowa, czy te\u017c ta poetycka nauka.<\/h4>\n

Wed\u0142ug mnie nauka nie m\u00f3wi w ksi\u0105\u017cce o kom\u00f3rkach dendrytycznych Z b\u0142\u0119kitu \u015bwiata<\/em> Jest taki wiersz: Druga zasada termodynamiki<\/em> kt\u00f3ry nie ma innej koncepcji naukowej ni\u017c tytu\u0142, kt\u00f3ry jest drug\u0105 zasad\u0105 termodynamiki. M\u00f3w o konsekwencjach rzeczy, chaosie nieuniknionego, nieuchronno\u015bci chaosu i pokoju. Czasami tekst mo\u017ce by\u0107 troch\u0119 niejasny, troch\u0119 zawi\u0142y, skomplikowany, z niedost\u0119pnymi s\u0142owami, ale wyzwaniem jest opowiedzenie o nauce tak, aby czytelnik nie wiedzia\u0142, \u017ce m\u00f3wisz o nauce. Poniewa\u017c ta ksi\u0105\u017cka faktycznie zosta\u0142a napisana w czasie pandemii i jest kilka wierszy, kt\u00f3re zawieraj\u0105 identyczne odniesienia, jest to jednoznaczne odniesienie do pandemii, wirusa, choroby, tego czym jeste\u015bmy, i nie pojawiaj\u0105 si\u0119 \u017cadne okre\u015blenia takie jak wirus, przeciwcia\u0142a, pcr.<\/p>\n

My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce poezja polega na pozostawieniu rzeczy tajemniczych, na przykryciu ich zas\u0142on\u0105, gaz\u0105, przepuszczeniu \u015bwiat\u0142a, ale nie ca\u0142o\u015bci, i umo\u017cliwieniu czytelnikowi odkrycia, czego chce.<\/p>\n

P: \u0141\u0105czenie pracy naukowej z pisaniem musi by\u0107 trudne. Jak udaje Ci si\u0119 zachowa\u0107 r\u00f3wnowag\u0119 pomi\u0119dzy tymi dwiema dyscyplinami?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>Nie r\u00f3wnowa\u017cymy pisania, pisanie jest jak wk\u0142adanie stopy w niepasuj\u0105cy but, to jak wciskanie. Uspokajasz si\u0119 i dostajesz reprymendy od pomys\u0142u, kt\u00f3ry przebija tw\u00f3j m\u00f3zg, m\u00f3wisz \u201emusz\u0119 co\u015b z tym zrobi\u0107\u201d i zaczynasz to pisa\u0107. Innymi s\u0142owy, nie wybierasz, kiedy komponowa\u0107, robisz swoje \u017cycie jako naukowiec i nagle literatura ci\u0119 przebija, uderza w policzek i musisz zareagowa\u0107. Jak wi\u0119c to zrobi\u0107? Aby przetrwa\u0107, kiedy mnie to spotka, musz\u0119 porzuci\u0107 nauk\u0119 i po\u015bwi\u0119ci\u0107 si\u0119 poezji, a potem wr\u00f3ci\u0107 do nauki i te\u017c ma\u0142o spa\u0107 \u2013 to jest praktyczny klucz.<\/p>\n

P: W wywiadzie, kt\u00f3rego udzieli\u0142e\u015b Televisi\u00f3n Espa\u00f1ola 1, stwierdzi\u0142e\u015b, \u017ce nauka i poezja mog\u0105 i\u015b\u0107 w parze, co s\u0105dzisz o obecnej sytuacji artyst\u00f3w i pogardzie, jak\u0105 darzy si\u0119 jak\u0105kolwiek ekspresj\u0119 artystyczn\u0105 w obliczu presti\u017cu nauki?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to wizja, kt\u00f3ra jest nam narzucana w okresie dojrzewania, kiedy \u2013 wiem to od kilku znajomych \u2013 nauczyciele, kt\u00f3rzy widz\u0105 dobrych uczni\u00f3w, polecaj\u0105 im zrobienie licencjata z nauk \u015bcis\u0142ych, \u201enie id\u017acie na humanistyk\u0119, bo to nie jest dla was dobre ."Nic" . My\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce to troch\u0119 narzucanie, z kt\u00f3rym musimy walczy\u0107. Jak z tym walczy\u0107? No c\u00f3\u017c, b\u0119d\u0105c tolerancyjnym, jak mo\u017cna by\u0107 tolerancyjnym? C\u00f3\u017c, rozmowa z naukowcem i artyst\u0105, tworzenie most\u00f3w, po\u0142\u0105cze\u0144, kt\u00f3re nie tworz\u0105 niezale\u017cnych \u015bwiat\u00f3w, ale w g\u0142\u0119bi duszy po\u0142\u0105czonych, w\u0142a\u015bnie tego w\u0142a\u015bnie chc\u0119.<\/p>\n

P: Na koniec, jako pisarz, jak\u0105 rad\u0119 da\u0142by\u015b ludziom, kt\u00f3rzy chc\u0105 zacz\u0105\u0107 pisa\u0107?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

A: <\/strong>Trzy rady: czytaj du\u017co, czytaj wi\u0119cej i czytaj wszystko, a potem zacznij pisa\u0107. To znaczy, my\u015bl\u0119, \u017ce jedynym sposobem na rozpocz\u0119cie jest czytanie. Zacz\u0105\u0142em czyta\u0107, bo nauczyciel literatury poleci\u0142 mi kilka tomik\u00f3w poezji i zacz\u0105\u0142em czyta\u0107 klasyk\u0119. Zatem moj\u0105 rad\u0105 by\u0142oby zacz\u0105\u0107 du\u017co czyta\u0107 i szuka\u0107 klasyk\u00f3w, kt\u00f3re smakuj\u0105, maj\u0105 ten smak. Nie martw si\u0119, \u017ce nie zrozumiesz, po prostu otw\u00f3rz swoj\u0105 dusz\u0119 na wiersz i pozw\u00f3l mu przenikn\u0105\u0107 do twojego wn\u0119trza, a nagle, nie zdaj\u0105c sobie z tego sprawy, zaczniesz my\u015ble\u0107 poetycko, umys\u0142 poetycki jest wy\u0107wiczony, a najlepszym sposobem jest czytanie.<\/p>\n

Oczywiste jest, \u017ce m\u0142odego poet\u0119 czeka pomy\u015blna przysz\u0142o\u015b\u0107. Dzi\u0119ki jego koncepcji rzeczywisto\u015bci \u015bwiat naukowy i \u015bwiat liryczny znajduj\u0105 pomost, na kt\u00f3rym harmonijnie wsp\u00f3\u0142istniej\u0105. twoje wiersze Z b\u0142\u0119kitu \u015bwiata<\/em> S\u0105 dost\u0119pne na Amazon, El Corte Ingl\u00e9s i La Casa del Libro. <\/span><\/p>\n

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